I had this painting passed down to me after my grandfather passed away. I tried looking up the artist, but count find him or her. This painting was and is my favorite because when I was little, growing up…when we visited my grandparent’s house, I would always take the room that had this painting. Stare at it until I went to sleep. I had a difficult time under my parent’s roof, so this painting with its ray of sun breaking through the clouds never ceases to uplift my heart. Now, in 2018 with the world full of prophecy of coming doom of California, I decided to delve deeper into something I had heard mentioned 12 years ago: The Dream of Joe Brandt that he had of California falling into the ocean.
Study of Joe Brandt Vision
(Thought to possibly be Joseph Wendell Brandt)
I first was introduced to the idea of California falling into the ocean when I dated a guy back in 2006. I didn’t recall the name, but was reintroduced to the idea and caught the name recently in a very quickly composed undetailed article in Christianity Today AU. Reading through the portions of his vision available online:
I thought a few things interesting. First, it interests me that many scientists have not looked at the detail of this dream Joe had, merely dismissing it in written articles as if mythological. Second, the fact that unlike the unknown “destruction” prophesied for Ninevah
Didn’t end in destruction. It ended in transformation and repentence.
Thirdly, I find it interesting how if repentence doesn’t take place in CA, that people will pronounce and already are pronouncing it as God’s judgement. How many will hate and blame God. It is out there that big earthquakes have a cycle and that we are overdue. 300 yrs ago, in 1700 when the last quake and tsunami hit the west coast, there were no cities here on the west coast with danger of fires and gas explosions and leaks, yet we decided to build things up the way we did anyway.
So please, lets be adult and responsible and not blame God for stuff that we did. Fourth, I find interesting that so few out there believe that such a thing as CA falling into the ocean wouldnt be the precursor as it seems to be in Joe’s vision dream of tectonic movings of the plates, as the bible DOES say that heaven and earth will be made new. In the Creation, the lands were in one mass (that most people now call by the term pangea). Fifth and last, how people will see much destruction and death but ignore and not rejoice in the beginning of and process toward earth (and heaven) being made new. We will see things because God promised never again to flood the earth. No one saw the continents shift into seperation. People will quite possibly witness the coming back together of the continents as the earth is made new and definitely the coming of the True King: Yeshua.
Joe Brandt’s Vision Dream
(Details piece by piece-numbered)
Prior to the earthquakes in CA, a volcano erupts near Baja, Mexico (which is found later described in his dream) three months prior to L.A earthquakes, volcano erupts in Columbia. Venezuela also described as having volcanic “activity”.
Here is what I Discovered: There are several volcanos in baja area:
Volcano La Reforma Caldera is the biggest on the eastern coast of Baja with three west of it: La Vírgen, El Azufre & El Viejo.
Columbia’s most well known volcano is Nevado Del Ruiz
According to this article, Columbia has 15-16 volcanoes: https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/colombia.html
Steiger ministries just posted the nudge toward Columbia they had:
Additionally Venezuela has a interactive map of volcanic activity:
Venezuela is just next to Columbia making up the two most northern countries in South America.
Hollywood Portion of Joe’s Dream
1. Quiet about the air/No Birds.
My Thoughts: Interesting because the bible describes a half hour of silence in heaven and earth. This seems forrunner like. I have to ask mysel though, why he was placed on hollywood blvd…when there are many big sites in Los Angeles that would be recognised.
2. Newspaper Corner had the president’s picture.
My Thoughts: It wasn’t full cover page as Time Mag and stuff has big now in 2017/18.
3. Funny glow around youngsters heads
My Thoughts: Initially I thought this possibly spiritual. However in reading a article by yoga instructor, Cynthia Gallaher, about his vision, she questions if this glow might not be the recent glowing headphone/headset popularized a few years ago?
4. The specific time at 3:50 pm afternoon
5. Cardboard Blonde draped over Marquee (movie title sign– indicates particular movie.)
My Thoughts: So, he might’ve well been seeing Chinese theatre from angle..from the side or the front of theatre is re-did. In reading the article by yoga instructor, Cynthia Gallaher, about his vision, she questions the cardboard blonde possibly to be a 2018 release of “Blonde” about Mariyln Monroe, produced by Brad Pitt, a film IMDB still says is in development, not even production.
My disagreement with this includes that marilyn Monroe (the real one) was born 1926 and died 1962). Joe, if tis the same Joe, (according to Cynthia’s research) was born in 1919. So, in 1937 when the vision took place, and given most movies strive for casting to have a recognizable likeness of the person they are docu dramatizing, although Marilyn was discovered in 1946, (ten yrs difference) Joe lived to age 75. Why did Joe never perhaps later make that distinguishment in a note. Second, Marilyn (the real one was 5’5″), so a six foot tall leggy female is iffy to me. Given that some predict Passover April 2018 (which I find unlikely as there is not any major blockbusters with such a blonde advertised and the timing…I find it questionable that God would send a disaster on the actual appointed day of Passover in the spirit some prophets are – though I was reminded in reflective reading that an earthquake happened when Yeshua died on the cross)
6. Specific individual: Frowsy haired sweet kid with very short skirt dragging boy twins, one in each of her hands. Joe is haunted by this particular individual wanting to help her. She stood out.
7. A lot of people looked “frowsy” (“out all over their heads”)
8. Sulpher like smell
My Thoughts: gas!
9. He walked half a block down Hollywood Blvd from the theatre–eyes still glued to THE CLOCK.
My Thoughts: What Clock? The clock BY the BIG theatre-gotta be Graussman Chinese theatre. Plus he mentions “Walk of fame” starwalk conists of 15 blocks of Hollywood Blvd. Graumans Chinese Theatre? Built 10 yrs prior to Joe’s vision.
10. Time 3:55 pm
11. Quake #1: “Funny little shake” happens. Nothing alarming.
12. Moving his legs like the youth he saw. (He didnt know if it was a dance or not.)
13. Supher smell (gas) coming from the ocean this time.
My Thoughts: This could be Nuclear activity or here are some other possibilities:
This article is interesting because of Joe saying before “where are the birds?” There’s a lot of seagulls in S. Cali. But without a scent to find food why would they come to such a spot? I realize the smell chronologically comes after, but animals and birds are given senses keener ones than ours before stuff occurs.
Here is another article of interst concerning sulpheric/gas smells from the ocean specifically:
In 2012 southern california smelled gaseous from the ocean. Here is a quote from a lesser news site that I am not sure of credibility:
“Alternatively, the gas can be released due to small movements in the earth’s tectonic plates, not enough to cause an earthquake but sufficient for methane to be released into the ocean.”
14. 5&10 store Joe comes to.
My Thoughts: What would that be nowadays so close to the Theatre?
(See Cynthia Article. The old 5&10 store from Joe’s time is gone but a new one is across from the Chinese theatre.) Joe consistently used terms in this dream to his understanding. Therefore, a 5&10 to him was probably looking vastly different, but he recognized the store as having the same function as a 5&10 store.
15. Specific individual: Young man from back east.
16. Specific individual: The Lil old lady whith white dog named “frou frou”
17. Specific individual: The doubled up young lady
18. Joe runs and runs
My Thoughts: Where? Down the block…Hollywood Blvd? Yes.
19. Quake #2: Monster pushing up the sidewalks sort of earthquake. Described as a a slow scream of a woman giving birth.
My Thoughts: The birthpangs imagery is also used in Scripture
20. Quake #2: Felt before one could see the earthquake
21. Cars didn’t realize at first.
22. White half size car from inside lane to curb with lady in it staring, making funny noises.
My Thoughts: This sounds like Joe is describing a smart car and I am not the only one who thinks this. I do wonder though, what funny noises the woman was making.
23. Quake #3: Earth quake-the nice cradle like shaking. Hollywood Blvd broken in two.
24. A loud sound. Unlike he had ever heard before.
My Thoughts: Could this be a shofar? He said at this point a loud sound… AGAIN. When did he first hear this sound unlike he had heard before? He distinguishes as different from the sounds that follow: “then hundreds of sounds—all kinds of sounds; children, and women, and those crazy guys with earrings.”
25. He describes people being lifted up.
My Thoughts: He was 17 yrs old at the time. Not a soldier yet. During WW1 Joe wasn’t even born. WW1 (when gas used in warfare) began 6 yrs prior to his birth and ended 2 yrs prior to his birth. WW2 hadn’t even started at the time he had this vision. It would start 2 yrs after his vision, before he had even seen warfare or movies depicted such warfare like they now do. He had no idea in his dream if the people being lifted up had died but he had described gas smell. Could it be possible they were blast forced upward?
26. Joe said the crying made his eardrums want to burst.
27. People falling down. Joe felt himself lifted over the city. Unsure whether or not he had died.
My Thoughts: Which city now? Los angeles? …Yes. Because he says the buildings on the Blvd held. Could it be people were falling down because of methane levels? He had said quite a bit about sulpher smell from ocean. Methane gas effects the respiratory system)
28. The city was “tilting” toward ocean “like a picnic table.”
My Thoughts: A picnic table is layered with the eating portion higher than the sitting part. Yet, we tend to visualize the word “tilt” as a steep angle. Could it be a gradual incline? Looking at and reflecting on photo of a picnic table…perhaps Joe was seeing the west end of CA…west of Hwy 5 descend first like the seat portion of a picnic table. That would make visual sense.
29. The buildings everyone held on to were the last to go.
30. Quake# 3 or 4: A 12 second “gentle” quake
31. He saw that the clock read 4:29.
My Thoughts: Describing a 40 minute time span. Earthquakes happened in 30 minute time span?
32. Sees the mountains coming together. In CA.
33. Thought San Fran “A long way off” was going to turn upsidedown or twist. Compared it to the 1936 Film San Fransisco, whose earthquake scene near the end of the movie is a capturing of the 1906 quake.
My Thoughts & Finds: Scientists believe that the tectonic plates would shift LA and SF together:
“No, California is not going to fall into the ocean. California is firmly planted on the top of the earth’s crust in a location where it spans two tectonic plates. The San Andreas Fault System, which crosses California from the Salton Sea in the south to Cape Mendocino in the north, is the boundary between the Pacific Plate (that includes the Pacific Ocean) and North American Plate (that includes North America). These two plates are moving horizontally, slowly sliding past one another. The Pacific Plate is moving northwest with respect to the North American Plate at approximately 46 millimeters per year (the rate your fingernails grow). The strike-slip earthquakes on the San Andreas Fault are a result of this plate motion. There is nowhere for California to fall, however, Los Angeles and San Francisco will one day be adjacent to one another!”
Forbes backs this up with:
“Although strike-slip faults have some vertical offset, it is insignificant compared to the horizontal offset. Therefore, the fundamental nature of the San Andreas fault system does not allow for drop and subsequent sloughing off of land on the western side of the fault.”
“whereas a large earthquake in the San Andreas Fault could trigger significantly larger localized movement on the order of tens of feet in seconds.”
The skeptisism of CA falling into the ocean has to do with the belief and emphasis on the horizontal:
“Much of California does lie along the San Andreas Fault, an 800-mile fracture in the Earth’s crust stretching from the Gulf of California to San Francisco. Here two immense plates of rock, floating on a semi-molten layer, meet and move against each other in what’s called a strike-slip fault. The stress caused by this movement can result in devastating earthquakes, like the 1906 quake that destroyed much of San Francisco.
But the motion between these two rock masses beneath the Golden State is mostly horizontal. That is, the Pacific plate is moving “up” the coast, not away from the North American plate, at a rate of dozens of millimeters per year”
My Thoughts: Despite those who are so sure such a thing could not happen, I read contrary conclusions describing Los Angeles soft soil area on top of what the underneath is comprised of and given Joe’s location of being over Los Angeles in his vision, the possibility the soft soil areas might crumble into the ocean shouldn’t be ruled out, as they are on the edge of the coastline.
Although Joe’s description of “tilting” seems contradictory to the above USGS and Forbes articles, his dream ends with him hearing over and over that CA is “going INTO the sea”– We don’t know if into is disappearing underwater or drifting off into the ocean as it would and could slide upwards toward SF. If the last quake in Joe’s dream was powerful enough to raise the mid atlantic mountains ridge out of the sea as he later describes, such shiftings could possibly cause flooding 240 miles (google maps) from the inward southern border (estimated from Yuma CA to Tuscon, AZ.)
Why would it be so strange to science then that if the continents used to not be broken up but were broken under similar tectonic straining, why would the phrase God uses that heaven and earth will be made new, that the continents would be gathered into one land place:
Gen 1:9 – And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. (KJV) Blueletterbible.org
I took this quote into consideration:
“The plates act like a hard and rigid shell compared to Earth’s mantle. This strong outer layer is called the lithosphere, which is 100 km (60 miles) thick, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. The lithosphere includes the crust and outer part of the mantle. Below the lithosphere is the asthenosphere, which is malleable or partially malleable, allowing the lithosphere to move around.”
Science favors the billions of years timeline but given God’s 6000 yr old earth, why is it that there was no records in early Bible history of earthquakes etc.? I tend to believe Noah’s flood is the answer. We do not know what the “fountains of the deep” were exactly, but lava is in the depths and the earth covered by rain water from the “windows of heaven” over forty days and nights could very well have shifted the earth into seperate continents. Interesting to note the possible 40 minutes of Joe’s vision of hollywood corellation to the 40 days of Noah’s flood. Makes one wonder. Those who think that the mention of the continents (after the flood) were divided in Genesis 10:25 possibly ignore tense written, plus the fact no great happenings such as shiftings were recorded in scripture. Big things like that tend to be recorded biblically. “Were” suggests that the continents as we know them were already divided. Antonio Snider from the 1850s also thought shift happened during the flood as I glanced theorized as I read this article:
So, let’s say the Bible is true. Let’s say that the plates shifted under the flood waters of Noah’s ark. Forty days and nights it flooded plus 150 days of water recession to arrive on dry land on a mountain. How many days total is that? 190 days. What a miracle we will be witness to if God puts the earth back in one land mass in as many days!
Now, let us consider “the fountains of the deep.” (Gen 7:11 & 8:2) They would have to push upward (“broken up” by God) through miles of earth’s layers. This is a fun trivia article:
“A layer of searing hot liquid magma trapped since Earth’s formation may lie 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) beneath our feet, new research suggests”
“A geological group who drilled a hole about 14.4 kilometers deep in the crust of the earth are saying that they heard human screams.”
The earth has four layers, inner and outer core, the mantle and crust. The mantle:
“Many people think of this as lava, but it’s actually rock. The rock is so hot, however, that it flows under pressure, like road tar. The mantle is about 1,800 miles (2,900 kilometers) thick and appears to be divided into two layers: the upper mantle and the lower mantle. The boundary between the two lies about 465 miles (750 kilometers) beneath the Earth’s surface.”
The USGS states this about the earth’s crust (the layer where tectonic plates are located):
“Continental crust with a thickness in excess of 50 km is exceedingly rare and accounts for less than 10% of the continental crust.”
The drillers in Siberia who heard hellish screams drilled 8.948 miles deep.
In USGS map within the article, I noted the crust thickness area along the CA Coastline is 30km. (18.641 miles).
Is it all that strange that increased heat underneath and magma signalled by increased volcanic activity would rise easily 10 miles to collapse CA?
So what is earth’s crust made of?
“The rocky surface layer of Earth, called the crust, is made up of mostly oxygen, silicon, aluminum, iron, calcium, sodium, potassium and magnesium.”
“Below the crust is the mantle. The upper part of the mantle is made up of peridotite, a rock denser than rocks common in the crust. The crust and the upper mantle make up the lithosphere. The lithosphere is broken up into tectonic plates that can move.
The crust is of two different types. One is the continental crust (under the land) and the other is the oceanic crust (under the ocean). The continental crust is thicker, and the oceanic crust is thinner. The thickness of the crust varies from 5 to 80 kilometers”
My Thoughts: Since tectonic plates need magma as a component to move, wouldnt it make logical sense that volcanic activity would be a warning of the coming “Californiapocolypse”? This is what I found:
Reading this article linked directly above, I have to ask myself (as a non scientist) why some in science think it is impossible for CA to collapse into the ocean, since a subduction zone is needed for that to happen and cascadia subduction plate is common known and used terminology?
In researching quakes, it is thought that our earth couldn’t handle a 12.0:
“A magnitude 12 earthquake would require a fault larger than the earth itself.”
I duely note this is the same corporate source that believes CA could not fall into the ocean but believes over time (billions of years) that L.A and S.F will be neighbors. I also note they use the phrase: “…require A fault larger than the earth itself.” Meaning they are considering only one fault. But…what if…what IF…with the recent years discovery of the evidence of fault interaction, and factoring in a 6000 year earth 25 big quakes along CA have occured on a 240 year cycle might accumulatively had an affect building up underneath we cant predict… what IF a big enough earthquake could happen because of more than one fault?
The only verses about end times in Revelation convernjng GREAT earthquakes is Revelation 11:13 and Revelation 16:18. The city spoken of in Revelation 11 refers to Jerusalem specifying it is where the Lord was crucified. The Revelation 16 earthquake will come after the battle of Armegeddon where specifically the islands and mountains go away, followed by talent weight hailstones.
Many think the quake in Joe’s Dream and recent prophesies are the end of the world. I believe it will be the beginning of the end. The said above bible verses have to happen, as well as other biblical events like the psuedo messiah putting himself up to be worshiped. Some might think the destruction of CA might point to the destruction of a third of the earth’s vegetation, but CA is sixth in global economy and China and India together produce just over 60% of the worlds veggies easily found at a glance on google:
This in no way dimjnishes the fact the economy of the USA would be severely wounded. California has become huge for the economy of our country with entertainment and produce. Just as the big earthquake is overdue, I recently found out, so also is a stock market crash.
On top of this information, a survivalist site forum had a suggestion that a big enough quake could alter the earth’s rotation. I am uncertain if chronologically the seals and shofars in Revelation with the day and night being split in half so its dark and light 6 hours at a time, how the speed of the earth would effect us as humans. But either way, at some point the bible and science seem to reveal alteration of rotation.
34. Joe closes his eyes for approx 10 min to try and shut things out
Hoover Dam Portion of Joe’s Dream
35. Describes the hoover Dam and Grand Canyon. Dam being pushed from underneath.
My Thoughts: Here you can find the faultlines in the United States:
Hoover Dam is Boulder Dam as Joe calls it in 1937 vision named Hoover Dam in 1947 according to wikipedia.
Note: The Boulder Dam portion of the dream is not quite clear in the site as it is only portions of his vision whether the dam happens before or after CA quakes.
Global portion of Joe’s Dream
36. Japan too is described as going into the sea.
My Thoughts: Again if the plates are shifting the continents together, to make a new earth as scripture describes, why would this be strange to science? I want to look into prophecies in Columbia and Japan. Could people from these countries long ago also have been witnesses?
37. Flooding in various parts all around the globe.
My Thoughts: This is -as far as I can tell-after CA happenings. Joe says churches were packed night and day. How many days, I wonder?
38. New York the water level was “way up”
People stealing all the shoes in a shoe store in matter of minutes.
My Thoughts: (5th Ave..5th Ave NY? Or the store?)
39. 5 girls running toward the NY YMCA near 5th Ave NY…lexington or somewhere.
40. Broken fuel tanks in certain places of NY. Oil shortage.
41. People headed to rural areas.
42. A lot of land came up in Atlantic
My Thoughts: Quite possibly the mid atlantic ridge emerging out of the ocean? What would that do to east coast as it travels toward Europe and Africa?
Second Portion of Hollywood In Joe’s Dream
43. Back to Hollywood. Notes the clock still read 4:29.
My Thoughts: Not sure myself if all these happening happened at once or if the clock had simply stopped working. What’s that clock run on? Electric or battery?
44. A short little man with glasses (unscared) reading instructions about helicopters or planes going over but Joe said they couldn’t in his vision because something was happening in the atmosphere.
45. Nightmare waves on CA coastline Hollywood.
My Thoughts: Waves. Plural
Second Portion of Hoover Dam in Joe’s Dream
46. Back to Hoover/Boulder Dam. As waves plural crash in to CA…Hoover Dam (previously pushed upward- see #35) now pushed together.
Third Portion of California in Joe’s Dream
47. Ham Radio operator inland in CA kep announcing, “This is California. We are going into the sea. This is California. We are going into the sea. Get to high places. Get to the mountains. All states west—this is California. We are going into the. . . we are going into the. . .”
48. Waves (Nightmare waves) had come inland CA
I had no conception of what it would be like to see the day when my loving grandfather would pass away and his home (not just a house) so full of loving memories and design details my grandmother had done over 30 years would be sold and the wallpaper and other items be stripped and sold and divied among relatives. I had no idea how significant this painting would turn out to be in my life, first as a comforting thing to observe and a memory to cherish when I was away from it, then the spiritual significance of sharing it with all of you, my readers, that if California and the nation doesn’t turn to trust and love Yeshua as a bride loves her groom and continue to enjoy relationship and getting to know Him, it should be no surprise to those who don’t when the waves of consequent choices come. I have no idea if California, who God put a burning in my heart to come to you and share His love back in 2005 to come to you will recipricate a deep flame of love and devotion and interest in knowing Him, or if many other homes and people will be gone under waves. I do not know what is in store for California, but I know my Creator is patient, and loves me and loves you and no matter if nightmare waves do take CA at some point, which break His heart for He doesn’t wish anyone to perish. I want everyone to remember His love in this painting and that there are rays of sunshine that will break through. As a living parent, He takes no delight in having to punish wrongdoing, its that He has to to protect. And instead of deeper appreciating Who He is and understanding His position, many people throw accusations at Him and spiritusm tantrums. This earth and heaven He has promised (and He does not break His promises) to make new. I hope you keep this in mind as you see Him move, that it is not all destruction. That is not the end plan. People will witnes much in these quickening last days that for so long have been out as drawn off. You are going to see terrible things, terrible waves, literal and spiritual but He will NOT leave you without that ray of sunshine breaking through the clouds. He promised never again to flood the earth. What a great and beautiful promise of exposure of sin and revelation and responsibility of choice. It will take every skill and training to courage to canoe what is coming. Keep this ray of sunshine firmly engrained in your hearts. I love you California. God loves you too. My prayer is that you taste the burning He put in my heart to come to you. But it is your choice! He loves you that much.